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| February 3, 2012 @ 10:40am | Good Morning ,
the other day Debbi tweeted the days she will be on and here they go! February 6th, 13th, 14th, 15th, and 29th. The episode on the 29th will be an interesting one. (Her words!) And drumroll please… Darnell’s first airdate is February 20th. There’s still no word on who he will be playing
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| February 2, 2012 @ 1:48pm |
Quote (middleone)
DG98,
I,personally,don't want a Harmony/Tucker(or,for that
matter,Jack)hook up,as it will not end well for Debbi's
character. Why? Well,for starters,Y&R does a poor job with
IR couplings.(Lily and Cane,not withstanding. CK doesn't
"look black",and,imo.is deemed less threatening. That,I
believe is the reason that they were only too happy to
hire her back,after firing Davetta Sherwood. The REAL
Lily. ) As I was saying,Y&R does a poor job with IR
couplings;Neil and Victoria.(bust)Olivia and Brad.(bust)
Neil and Ashley(bust). Do you see a pattern,here? The
only thing Y&R can tolerate doing(where white people and
more noticeably,black people are concerned)is to have them
have sex and then break up. (Which only lends itself
to them entertaining the titillation factor and then mov-
ing on,to other characters.)
That being said,if Debbi is of the opinion that it
would be too predictable to have her character hook up
with Neil,well,maybe so,but what would be SO different
(Especially for Y&R)to have a black person and a white
person hook up,only to break up 5 minutes later?!
Nothing,if you ask me. If Debbi,actually,thinks that
tptb are going to treat her character,any differently than
KSJ's or any of the other AAs on that show,then she hasn't
been paying close attention to the show,ever since BB
died. And she,obviously,isn't hearing ANYTHING that
her friend VR has been saying about MAB and her regime,
at Y&R. If Debbi has been paying attention to what
Maria's been doing,over at Y&R,where the black people
are concerned,then it begs the question,why would she
sign on with them?(Other than wanting to work,as an
actress,that is.)
As for Neil and Harmony not hooking up,due to him being
married,well,last time I checked,so was TUCKER! So,
why would people want,so desperately,a Tucker/Harmony
hook up? Especially when Ashley is a nice woman,who
doesn't deserve to be dogged out for an ex-crackhead.
Granted,Harmony has a connection with Tucker,that Ashley,
most likely,will never have;a child(Devon). Still,a
hook up between Harmony and Tucker will not be about any-
thing other than sex,given their backstory and that Tuck-
er couldn't even remember Harmony's face,when they met
back up. And couldn't be bothered to get her REAL name,
when they were together. What is THAT?! Doesn't,exactly,
scream LOVE,to me,but,oh well,to each his own.
Suffice it to say,a Harmony/Tucker hook-up MAY happen,
(this IS a soap,after all. )but it won't last for an
extended period of time,as Y&R doesn't care to "go there"
with the exception of Lily and Cane.
And,just out of curiosity,if it is redundant to recon-
nect Debbi with Darnell,why isn't it,also,redundant to
do a Cliff/Angie redux? Especially,when it didn't
work the first time. (And don't say it's because
we're in a different time period. Putting race in a con-
text of time,is like putting the worth of people of color
on a time table. That isn't cool,ever,in my opinion. ) |
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To be honest I don't want her paired with anybody come think of it let her stand on her own let her fan see how wonderful she is on her own she don't have to be paired up all the time give her a one night fling ever now and again and she don't have to be paired with Darnell in a romantic way all the time either he could be the support counslor that she be talking to on the phone sometimes you know the person we never see I say just let him stop in gc to check on her and be there to support her and when he feels that she is good to stand on her own and don't need the support meeting anymore let his character go plain and simple. |
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| February 2, 2012 @ 1:37pm |
Quote (middleone)
Well,the Image Award noms were announced,today,and I
must say,"I'm SHOCKED! Why? Because the two BEST
actors on daytime were NOT nominated! Debbi and
Darnell's names were NOT on the list of nominees!
What happened?! Did they not submit their names,
for consideration? IF so,then I can understand,not
being nominated.(That's the reason that Kristoff St. John
hasn't been nominated. He stopped submitting his name for
consideration,so that Bryton James could have a better
chance of winning. )So if D and D didn't submit their
names,fine. But why wouldn't they? They put in the
finest,most impressive performance in all of daytime
(imho.)for their work on the baby switch storyline.
So,why would they NOT submit their names for consideration?
I'm at a loss. I mean,c'mon,the guy who played "Ben"
(the guy who held Erica captive)received a nomination!
What's up with THAT?! I don't get it! Especially when
one considers the fact that Crystal Kahlil,also,received
a nomination. Seriously,NAACP?! Wow! Just Wow!
Mind you,I know that,recently,I criticized DM for her
role on Y&R(and without apology. My criticism stands.)
Still,I am able to give credit where it is due and DM
DOES deserve credit for her work on AMC,this past year.
She was PHENOMENAL when "Angie" found out about Ellie
dying. So,to say that I'm disappointed in the NAACP,
right now,would be an understatement. BAD move,NAACP!
Hopefully,the EMMYS will be kinder to BOTH Debbi and
Darnell,this year! |
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I believe Darnell might have did that but in Debbi's case I do not blame her for not putting her name in fro what for her to loose again to people who can't act or who don't even be seen on what ever show they play on but once in a while I would have not put my name in either for that matter.
But on the other hand I do believe she should have put her name in cuz she did a wonderful outstanding job since she has came back and this year alone she deserve every award that is out there for and actress to win.
But we'll see in a couple of months from now when the daytime emmy awards come on. |
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| January 29, 2012 @ 10:12pm | DG98,
I,personally,don't want a Harmony/Tucker(or,for that
matter,Jack)hook up,as it will not end well for Debbi's
character. Why? Well,for starters,Y&R does a poor job with
IR couplings.(Lily and Cane,not withstanding. CK doesn't
"look black",and,imo.is deemed less threatening. That,I
believe is the reason that they were only too happy to
hire her back,after firing Davetta Sherwood. The REAL
Lily.) As I was saying,Y&R does a poor job with IR
couplings;Neil and Victoria.(bust)Olivia and Brad.(bust)
Neil and Ashley(bust). Do you see a pattern,here? The
only thing Y&R can tolerate doing(where white people and
more noticeably,black people are concerned)is to have them
have sex and then break up.(Which only lends itself
to them entertaining the titillation factor and then mov-
ing on,to other characters.)
That being said,if Debbi is of the opinion that it
would be too predictable to have her character hook up
with Neil,well,maybe so,but what would be SO different
(Especially for Y&R)to have a black person and a white
person hook up,only to break up 5 minutes later?!
Nothing,if you ask me. If Debbi,actually,thinks that
tptb are going to treat her character,any differently than
KSJ's or any of the other AAs on that show,then she hasn't
been paying close attention to the show,ever since BB
died. And she,obviously,isn't hearing ANYTHING that
her friend VR has been saying about MAB and her regime,
at Y&R. If Debbi has been paying attention to what
Maria's been doing,over at Y&R,where the black people
are concerned,then it begs the question,why would she
sign on with them?(Other than wanting to work,as an
actress,that is.)
As for Neil and Harmony not hooking up,due to him being
married,well,last time I checked,so was TUCKER! So,
why would people want,so desperately,a Tucker/Harmony
hook up? Especially when Ashley is a nice woman,who
doesn't deserve to be dogged out for an ex-crackhead.
Granted,Harmony has a connection with Tucker,that Ashley,
most likely,will never have;a child(Devon). Still,a
hook up between Harmony and Tucker will not be about any-
thing other than sex,given their backstory and that Tuck-
er couldn't even remember Harmony's face,when they met
back up. And couldn't be bothered to get her REAL name,
when they were together. What is THAT?! Doesn't,exactly,
scream LOVE,to me,but,oh well,to each his own.
Suffice it to say,a Harmony/Tucker hook-up MAY happen,
(this IS a soap,after all.)but it won't last for an
extended period of time,as Y&R doesn't care to "go there"
with the exception of Lily and Cane.
And,just out of curiosity,if it is redundant to recon-
nect Debbi with Darnell,why isn't it,also,redundant to
do a Cliff/Angie redux? Especially,when it didn't
work the first time. (And don't say it's because
we're in a different time period. Putting race in a con-
text of time,is like putting the worth of people of color
on a time table. That isn't cool,ever,in my opinion.) |
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| Rolytab | January 29, 2012 @ 6:46pm |
Quote (Rolytab)
All members go and click to follow and voice your opinion
about Harmony and D's new character. She isn't feeling Darnell on young and restless.
Thanks,
Alison |
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Do follow Ms. Debbi and I think people are wanting a Harmony/Tucker pairing. I would rather not see her with Neil personally. He is the only AA male and just because he is does not mean he has to be paired with every AA woman that comes on the scene. I love black love for sure but in this circumstance he is MARRIED and it would be nice to have her character link up with another family. There is only so much recycling of that Winters s/l folk can take.
Debbi loves Darnell we all know! But I can see why she wants to get away from them being a pair. It's Y&R not AMC. She took the role to do something totally different from Angie. If they try to pair them up too quickly IMO that is diastrous because people will try to make them Angie and Jesse and we already see that Harmony isn't "Angie" so it would be awkward at this point to put them together romantically. I am hoping they write a character that has depth that the fans will enjoy with Darnell coming on. I am sure if he is left there long enough they will hook up eventually and I do not mind that because we know they work together.
But anything is better than woman meets Neil falls for him, sleep with his brother or vice versa, she ends up pregnant and then we have a whose the daddy s/l again. Enough with that and give them some love, business and drama like everyone else! lol
I still say put Harmony in Jack's orbit! |
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| Debbi 's twitter page | January 25, 2012 @ 9:53pm | All members go and click to follow and voice your opinion
about Harmony and D's new character. She isn't feeling Darnell on young and restless.
Thanks,
Alison |
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| NAACP Image Award Nominations | January 19, 2012 @ 1:03pm | Well,the Image Award noms were announced,today,and I
must say,"I'm SHOCKED! Why? Because the two BEST
actors on daytime were NOT nominated! Debbi and
Darnell's names were NOT on the list of nominees!
What happened?! Did they not submit their names,
for consideration? IF so,then I can understand,not
being nominated.(That's the reason that Kristoff St. John
hasn't been nominated. He stopped submitting his name for
consideration,so that Bryton James could have a better
chance of winning.)So if D and D didn't submit their
names,fine. But why wouldn't they? They put in the
finest,most impressive performance in all of daytime
(imho.)for their work on the baby switch storyline.
So,why would they NOT submit their names for consideration?
I'm at a loss. I mean,c'mon,the guy who played "Ben"
(the guy who held Erica captive)received a nomination!
What's up with THAT?! I don't get it! Especially when
one considers the fact that Crystal Kahlil,also,received
a nomination. Seriously,NAACP?! Wow! Just Wow!
Mind you,I know that,recently,I criticized DM for her
role on Y&R(and without apology. My criticism stands.)
Still,I am able to give credit where it is due and DM
DOES deserve credit for her work on AMC,this past year.
She was PHENOMENAL when "Angie" found out about Ellie
dying. So,to say that I'm disappointed in the NAACP,
right now,would be an understatement. BAD move,NAACP!
Hopefully,the EMMYS will be kinder to BOTH Debbi and
Darnell,this year! |
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| Y&R! | January 12, 2012 @ 11:16pm | Well we all know now he is going over to Y&R with DM!!!!
Woooooo-hooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!  |
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| January 10, 2012 @ 9:02pm | Again perception makes a world of difference and to each his own. I just thought it was A point of stressing where her character was coming from. As well I don't think Debbi would intentionally do or say anything that she thought would have been degrading or disrespectful. I do not agree with that in any race at all. But the Italian thug mobster thing is pretty obvious and over exaggerated IMO. I am well aware of racism and have experienced it personally. So I get that it's just a difference of perception and opinion and you have every right to feel that way the you do! I just don't see it the same just as part of her that's about the change. I wonder if folks got in an uproar when Dru came on with VERY similar characteristics minus the drugs of course? Aunt Mamie's role is what was stereotypical and what I had issue with. Her portrayal was offensive to me (they made her an updated mammy who pined for the man of the house). Harmony is much like an older version of Dru for me so her flaws are many until she gets a turn around which hopefully will happen at a good pace and give her confidence she is already wise or wiser as seen in her handling her broken relationship with Devon.
As well for me in looking at the context of the scene and Phyllis' interaction with her it's not as if she is demanding that or demeaning her in any way. It would be different if Phyllis were treating her as a "slave" and she's not. It is factual as it pertains to that relationships that Harmony is her subordinate. But like before it's a matter of perception and as a sidenote the belittling of any race is never acceptable. Ijs |
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| January 10, 2012 @ 7:55pm | DG,
I would refer to ANYONE that was my boss,with a MR.
or Miss/MS,reference,unless told to do otherwise. But,
I,certainly,wouldn't refer to a W person as Mr. Charlie,
Dave or Joe,but then refer to someone else,by just their
first name. NO WAY! I would refer to my boss as Mr.
or Miss(insert LAST name.)
If Harmony had referred to others with the Mr/Miss
reference,then I would say "fine","whatever". But,when
an AA woman refers to a W woman(boss or not)with Miss
Phyllis,(not even by her last name. )it,for many,evokes
images and thoughts of slavery,or blacks being treated
subordinate to whites. That's,I think,what MANY viewers
thought,upon hearing that,and I applaud those who raised
their voices(via the internet)for doing so.
Personally,I don't think ANY disrespect shown to the
AA community is making too much of something. Or making
much ado about nothing.
And how is the disrespect of Italian Americans more
bothersome than the disrespect that MAB and Co.
CONTINUES to show to AAs? Just curious. |
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