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Week of July 20th
Started July 16, 2009 @ 8:47am by Meredith
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Meredith
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| July 20, 2009 @ 12:48pm |
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In regard to Angie, Jesse is her husband and despite what happened previously between them she actually forgave him and stated so on screen, and since then at least up until now, even though she has doubts and rightfully so considering, with trusting her gut, she has no tangible reason to NOT believe what he says at least at this point. Since she resolved that issue and let the Reblocka thing go, there isn't a reason for her to not trust in her husband as far her character and their relationship is being portrayed to us at the moment. |
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Here in lies the problem... Angie had no tangible reason TO trust Jesse once his lies came to the surface. Nearly everything he told her about those 20 years was a lie... even his vows to her are in question because he presented himself as a man with no home and all alone and we know that was a lie.
How can Angie NOT question everything else he told her when most of what he told her about those 20 years was a lie... as Angie said back when he first came out to the public, they both have changed and as far as Jesse goes his actions say he changed into a liar. While Angie should forgive him for her sake not his, trusting him is something he destroyed and it should have been earned back not given back with barely any accountablility.
Angie owed it to herself NOT to blindly trust someone who took that blind trust... remember she wasn't angry with him when she first saw him because she knew, trusted that he would never leave her unless he felt he had no other choice... Angie owed it to herself to require him to earn that trust again because Jesse proved that he did not deserve her blind trust because he took that trust and fed her a boatload of lies which she believed were gospel.
I mean look at what he is doing now. When Angie asked him about what was going on with him, what did he do... made her think she was wrong when she was dead right and then lied to her face once again... then what did she do... believed his lies once again... if Angie hadn't handed that unearned trust over to him on a golden platter, she would have stared him down and believed her instinct instead of him because unlike Jesse, her instinct isn't lying to her.
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| July 20, 2009 @ 1:24pm |
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In regard to Angie, Jesse is her husband and despite what happened previously between them she actually forgave him and stated so on screen, and since then at least up until now, even though she has doubts and rightfully so considering, with trusting her gut, she has no tangible reason to NOT believe what he says at least at this point. Since she resolved that issue and let the Reblocka thing go, there isn't a reason for her to not trust in her husband as far her character and their relationship is being portrayed to us at the moment. |
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Here in lies the problem... Angie had no tangible reason TO trust Jesse once his lies came to the surface. Nearly everything he told her about those 20 years was a lie... even his vows to her are in question because he presented himself as a man with no home and all alone and we know that was a lie.
How can Angie NOT question everything else he told her when most of what he told her about those 20 years was a lie... as Angie said back when he first came out to the public, they both have changed and as far as Jesse goes his actions say he changed into a liar. While Angie should forgive him for her sake not his, trusting him is something he destroyed and it should have been earned back not given back with barely any accountablility.
Angie owed it to herself NOT to blindly trust someone who took that blind trust... remember she wasn't angry with him when she first saw him because she knew, trusted that he would never leave her unless he felt he had no other choice... Angie owed it to herself to require him to earn that trust again because Jesse proved that he did not deserve her blind trust because he took that trust and fed her a boatload of lies which she believed were gospel.
I mean look at what he is doing now. When Angie asked him about what was going on with him, what did he do... made her think she was wrong when she was dead right and then lied to her face once again... then what did she do... believed his lies once again... if Angie hadn't handed that unearned trust over to him on a golden platter, she would have stared him down and believed her instinct instead of him because unlike Jesse, her instinct isn't lying to her. |
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We are in complete agreement! If Jesse says to Angie the sky is blue she should go outside and check that for herself cause he lies with just a little to much ease since his return from the dead.He also never seems terribly sorry for it.Just looks pitiful and asks her to understand.which she does without fail or hesitation. |
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Last Edit: July 20, 2009 @ 1:26pm by tcirene | |
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deltagirl98
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| Well..... | July 20, 2009 @ 7:16pm | I hear what you are all saying and I do not disagree and I as stated before since this is what we have been given on screen as far as they are being portrayed it is what it is. Especially Since ANGIE herself has chosen to forgive and let it be. She is trusting of him again. In the words of DW "I did not write it!" As far as what we have been given since that situation.
I have also stated before that I thought it should have been written differently it wasn't realistic in the resolution of the entire debacle. Since Pratt took it there its what we have. This vindication for Angie the way some us of think it should have happened will not EVER be. Because as far as Chuck is concerned it has been resolved. He never completes or ends an s/l well, he has proven that time and time again since coming on. His idea of resolution is to kill folks off.
I think Angie is right to trust her gut she knows something is wrong and going on and she has every right to question it and be ticked off when she finds out what went down and that Jesse lied again. I have never said Jesse was right in his lying about Reblocka and Nat. He was wrong for his part in it all of that, but the fact still remains that as far as Chuck is concerned Angie's is over it, and frankly if she were to question everything he did forever then really there would be no point in carrying on with it (JMO). I do not beleive a woman should continue to be treated badly or lied to all the time either. As Angie's character ( along with several other women on the show including KWAK being another who just beleives what David says at the drop of a hat as well) is being written as a weak woman who just dotes on everything her man says and does (that is the trend with him and his portrayal of women) but as my mother says a person will only do to you what you allow them to. We all know in soap time things happen swiftly in 2 days or less. I would have preferred to see them actually put in the work to get through that whole siutation and the aftermath and all of that, but my point is the vindication that is expected or is looking to be corrected as her being done wrong and what she should have demanded from him, or what he should have done to earn the trust back is just not going to happen. She gave it back to him blindly as you put it then she has to deal with the fall out of this one too. Sad but true, so unless another writer comes on to rewrite what Chuck already rewrote and poorly(me rolling my eyes)...... (sigh) I got nothing else.  
I am just stating that this is what is being thrown out there. As I continue to blow up the comment line and send emails and whatnot hopefully I will be one voice of many that expresses my disdain for the lack of care being given to Angie and Jesse, shoots the entire show if we are really honest about it. So all I can say is call, write and email AMC/ABC until you are blue in the face at least on behalf of future s/l's at least they will know AnJ have a consistent fan base that will cause an uproar when they need to... just saying.
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| Spoilers w/ Commentary | July 21, 2009 @ 3:10pm | (courtesy of Eye on Soaps)
* Frankie tells Brot about the mysterious message concerning Randi’s baby.
Hey, Frankie and Brot, this is Pine Valley where mysterious messages are as common, as well, people not using the common sense writers used to give them. Or something akin to that.
* Randi receives a bookend that exactly matches the one she used to clobber North.
Randi writes Madison a note thanking her for the late wedding present. Randi is sweet and polite but not exceptionally bright.
* Jesse tells Randi that Madison is just torturing her.
I hope Jesse remembers to use one-syllable words. Of course, Jesse’s cover-up wasn’t exactly genius work, was it?
* Randi has severe abdominal cramps. Jesse rushes her to the ER. She miscarries.
I certainly hope this is the last of this year’s pregnancy stories. Yes, sometimes I am as naïve as Randi.
* Frankie does his best to support Randi.
I am betting Frankie’s support will last about 15 minutes. After that, the not-so-appealing self-righteous Frankie Hubbard will reappear. |
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| July 21, 2009 @ 6:54pm | As far as Im concerned Angie and Jesse are both living a lie. Despite what everyone feels is Angie just accepting Jesse's lies, THAT "S BS! That is not forgiving in my book. If I was Angie (Oh wait! I am!) I'd question every damn thing Jesse told me.
1. You say you were on the run. How long before you settled, did you run? Two days, three months?!
2. If it was "always" me, then why didn't you come home? You came home because your son was dying, not expecting to see said son's mother?! Are you kidding me?! That boy worships his mother! ( DON"T GO THERE! JUST GO WITH IT!) Frankie was Angie's only link to Jesse. She did everything in her power (cause ya know she's the Goddess of Life!) to save her boy! And why wouldn't she be there? You'd think she'd let her boy die by his lonesome!? WHATEVER MAN!
3. My past doesn't matter. It can't hurt us ( or whatever the hell he said!) OOOH BUT I disagree oh man of where the hell have you been these past twenty years! Your past came back to bite you all up in ya a&&! And hurt the one woman whom you claimed to have love all these years!
4. If he really truly loved her, if he missed her all those years, if he held her in his heart all those years, why? Why stay away? Why lie about what you did? Why lie and say you didn't love the woman who was supposedly your cover? Why break cover? Your son and wife believed you to be dead! There was no point in Jesse coming back for this! Frankie was dying. What was Jesse gonna do? Become his saving grace? Take his place? Please! To me Jesse was better off dead! Bring back Jacob! At least he wouldn't lie to her to PROTECT her!
IN THE WORDS OF TSUDELTA WHATEVER MAN!
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