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deltagirl98
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| HAPPY NEW YEAR | January 1, 2012 @ 11:34pm | Wishing everyone a year filled with the love of God, success, laughter and excellent health!
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| HAPPY 2012 | January 2, 2012 @ 12:19pm | Yea, and what Diva Alicia said above!
But to add to that, I pray that God will continue to bless each and everyone of you (because I know you all have many blessings to count) and show you much favor thru the year!
Oh, HOW I love Jesus!!! |
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| Happy New Year | January 2, 2012 @ 4:27pm | Happy New Year everybody i hope you enjoyed your holiday |
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| Did you hear the news....?! | January 3, 2012 @ 6:36pm | First of all,HAPPY NEW YEAR,to EVERYONE at AnJ Nation.  
Now,for the NEWS! DARNELL WILLIAMS,aka,Jesse Hubbard,
is joining Y&R!  I don't know much info. but,I
think that he's playing a new character.
I wonder how Debbi feels about this. Hopefully,
she feels good about it.
I wasn't feeling Y&R,really,to be honest. Even with
DM on it. The story,that she's involved in is okay ,
but I'm not bowled over by the writing for her,just yet.
Maybe with the addition of DW,that will change.
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| January 4, 2012 @ 10:19am | I am super exciting Mr. Williams is joining Y&R, they are in for a suprise with these two working together again who knows what can happen, the possibilites are endless, soooo looking forward to seeing them onscreen together again!!!
Let your love be like the misty rains, coming softly, but flooding the river. |
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deltagirl98
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| BACKFLIPS | January 4, 2012 @ 10:32pm | Glad DW is working again! I do not think they will place those two in each other's orbit romantically either. It would be interesting to see them be romantically linked to other people, since this is Y&R and not AMC. If they really write for them and develop characters it could be awesome.
I personally like Yolanda's (Harmony's)character. She gives a splash of you better back up. She is flawed and very real and raw but in a good way I think. Mainly love that her chacracter has potential to grow and change and that fans can see her grow from her lowest point. No place to go but up (at least for 5 minutes it is a soap opera! LOL)
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| January 5, 2012 @ 9:14pm | I agree DG98! One thing about Y & R they tend to gradually work a new character into the show. I am glad DM gets an opportunity to play a woman that has to make up for a lot of bad choices. She is nothing like Angie and I am glad.
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| Darnell & Debbie on Y&R | January 8, 2012 @ 9:10pm | It's ok to have healthy fantasies. Here's hoping the Y&R writers wakeup and at some point in the future let Debbie and Darnell's characters unite once again.
Before you totally write off the idea, Y&R execs might wise up to the idea of integrating certain AMC "institutions" such as Ange & Jesse into their storylines. Who can stop them? Change the names, yes, keep the romance. Would serve ABC for dropping one of the best soaps. In fact, I proposed to a friend that Y&R purchase the AMC rights and merge the main characters into the show, and lengthen the show to 90 minutes. Even if the don't purchase the rights, perhaps they would have the temerity to hire most of the major players (Tad, David, Erica, and yes the flat chested huzzies Greenlee and Kendall). WOuld be a definite blast.
Hey nation, let's bombard the Y&R execs with requests for a reunion to our beloved couple. |
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| January 8, 2012 @ 10:03pm |
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I agree DG98! One thing about Y & R they tend to gradually work a new character into the show. I am glad DM gets an opportunity to play a woman that has to make up for a lot of bad choices. She is nothing like Angie and I am glad. |
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BUT,did you see an episode,last week,when DM's charact-
er,Harmony(or Yoharmony,as some viewers call her. )
referred to Phyllis Newman(Michelle Stafford)as "MISS"
Phyllis?!  It would be HALF-way understandable if
Harmony was from the south and said that. Or if Harmony
was,considerably,younger than Phyllis,like Anna.(Whose
"Miss" references also made me sick. Thankfully,I
barely,watched the show,then. Much like now. )
But,given that Harmony and Phyllis are close to the same
age and Harmony is not a southerner(where Miss this and
Miss that,would be understandable. )it begs the ques-
tion,WTHECK were the writers(or even DM,if she was ad-lib-
bing. )THINKING?!
Suffice it to say,message boards are LIT UP,over this
"Miss Phyllis" crap! And I have to admit,I'm okay
with it. Because most people are NOT HAPPY about it
and are voicing their displeasure,loud and clear.
Some people,not surprisingly,think that writers like
Jamey Giddens,over at DC,are blowing the phrase(Miss
Phyllis)out of proportion,and making it much ado about
nothing. But,most others,see it as just ANOTHER
example of Maria Arena Bell's racial insensitivity(to put it mildly. )to
Y&R's,considerable,AA audience. I tend to agree.
But,in all fairness,Y&R is not exempt in being disre-
pectful or racist,where characters of color,or AAs are
concerned.  I WAS looking forward to DW coming
to GC. But,now,I don't know.
What do you guys think? Is MAB and Co,being insensi-
tive AGAIN? OR did DM ad-lib or just flat-out "flub"
her lines? Me? I'm not sure. |
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deltagirl98
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| Middleone | January 9, 2012 @ 10:00am | I guess I look at Harmony very differently. I think we have to keep in mind where she is coming from. She has been a enslaved if you will to other people her whole life. She got caught up with Tucker hanging with groupies to fit in and clearly he thought no more of her than the tissue he wiped his butt with. But she went from that to being enslaved to drugs and I am sure her dealer and the other folks in her circle who knew they could use her to get whatever in exchange for drugs. She Got caught up with whoever Ana's dad is, that didnt work out and now she is under Katherine's thumb. I think they are just showing how damaged she is. Her being clean doesn't mean she has renewed her mind, that mentailty carries over in to every aspect of life. I think when they(and THEY BETTER) transform her it will be very noticable that she is changing and come into herself and not bow down to everything and everyone like she has before. Debbi said she has nothing to do with writers she just has to trust they will get it right. So I think she is pretty much sticking to script. With her being fairly new I do not know if she has as much leeway with that as she and Darnell did on AMC. But I guess I see huge potential for her character to come into her own as we say. Hopefully they get it right with her and Darnell.
SN: it would be cool to see DW in a businessman role opposite EB. IJS
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| January 9, 2012 @ 1:08pm | I need to clarify something. When I said that I
was okay with it,regarding Yoharmony/DM and the "Miss
Phyllis" controversy,what I meant was that I was okay with
people being upset and expressing their outrage/indigna-
tion at the writers or whoever wrote that line.
NOT that I'm okay with the line. Because I'm NOT!
And it's not a small thing,either,imo. Because it speaks
to a blatant show of disrespect(presumably,on the writers
and MAB's part )for a significant part of Y&R's view-
ership. JMO,but I know that others feel the same.
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| Middle one | January 10, 2012 @ 12:29pm | Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But I think this is Harmony's first time in a job setting like this and for her it is probably intimidating and she wants to try and do and say everything just right and I am from the south! So it is not unusual to hear the term Miss or Mr. In front of someone's name usually with children. But for us it a term of respect to adults or those in leadership positions. Speaking professionally I do not refer to my boss by her first name but refer her as Ms. Myles. I do not know many people who just say hey Joey what's next on the agenda? (unless they are cool with that) There is a certain level of respect you give those people now if she had said that and then proceeded to wash her shoes or pick up Summer and have her call her mammy then I would be yelling! But I think the choice of words was to emphasize how out of place she feels and is compared to the usual type of folks who work there in comparison to where Harmony comes from
And the environment she is used to. IMHO this is no different than a
Hard headed, uneducated, illiterate, unrefined Drucilla when her character was introduced on YnR years ago. She transformed as will Harmony.
And if Harmony would have referred to Phyllis by her last name. Ms. Newman or Summers ( whichever she goes by) would we be having this conversation?
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| January 10, 2012 @ 2:52pm | NO Deltagirl98,we wouldn't be having this conversation,
because it wouldnt' be warranted,to have the discussion
at all. As there is NOTHING wrong with an employee show-
ing respect for her employer. Miss Newman would've been
fine and appropriate,unless Phyllis instructed her to
say "just call me Phyllis".
The problem,however,comes in when an AA woman calls
a W woman Miss So and So. That,imo.is reminiscent of
slavery. And NOT cool! As for the southern,
aspect,Yoharmony isn't southern. She's from Baltimore.
So,why would SHE,use a common,SOUTHERN,reference?
Doesn't make sense. (Heavy sigh) |
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| Middleone | January 10, 2012 @ 7:11pm | I saw that eppy and I was not offended by it personally. And just because one is not a Southerner does mean they cannot use or do not use such phrases. At this point there are no other AA females in a role of authority on the show and I think it's totally unrealistic for folks to think that they only need to say courtesy phrases to folks who are only of their ethnicity or race. If one's employer was a white woman or man you would refer to them by his or her first name because they are white? One is only inferior when they are allow themselves to be. I think Harmony is just trying to find her place right now and that's doing what she thinks will keep her job since she is working two of the
! I just think some things are blown out of proportion. For me this is one of those things. What is offensive though is the extreme display of that character being portrayed by Diana Degarmo now those grossly stereotypical things they have going on with that is like whoa.
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| January 10, 2012 @ 7:55pm | DG,
I would refer to ANYONE that was my boss,with a MR.
or Miss/MS,reference,unless told to do otherwise. But,
I,certainly,wouldn't refer to a W person as Mr. Charlie,
Dave or Joe,but then refer to someone else,by just their
first name. NO WAY! I would refer to my boss as Mr.
or Miss(insert LAST name.)
If Harmony had referred to others with the Mr/Miss
reference,then I would say "fine","whatever". But,when
an AA woman refers to a W woman(boss or not)with Miss
Phyllis,(not even by her last name. )it,for many,evokes
images and thoughts of slavery,or blacks being treated
subordinate to whites. That's,I think,what MANY viewers
thought,upon hearing that,and I applaud those who raised
their voices(via the internet)for doing so.
Personally,I don't think ANY disrespect shown to the
AA community is making too much of something. Or making
much ado about nothing.
And how is the disrespect of Italian Americans more
bothersome than the disrespect that MAB and Co.
CONTINUES to show to AAs? Just curious. |
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| January 10, 2012 @ 9:02pm | Again perception makes a world of difference and to each his own. I just thought it was A point of stressing where her character was coming from. As well I don't think Debbi would intentionally do or say anything that she thought would have been degrading or disrespectful. I do not agree with that in any race at all. But the Italian thug mobster thing is pretty obvious and over exaggerated IMO. I am well aware of racism and have experienced it personally. So I get that it's just a difference of perception and opinion and you have every right to feel that way the you do! I just don't see it the same just as part of her that's about the change. I wonder if folks got in an uproar when Dru came on with VERY similar characteristics minus the drugs of course? Aunt Mamie's role is what was stereotypical and what I had issue with. Her portrayal was offensive to me (they made her an updated mammy who pined for the man of the house). Harmony is much like an older version of Dru for me so her flaws are many until she gets a turn around which hopefully will happen at a good pace and give her confidence she is already wise or wiser as seen in her handling her broken relationship with Devon.
As well for me in looking at the context of the scene and Phyllis' interaction with her it's not as if she is demanding that or demeaning her in any way. It would be different if Phyllis were treating her as a "slave" and she's not. It is factual as it pertains to that relationships that Harmony is her subordinate. But like before it's a matter of perception and as a sidenote the belittling of any race is never acceptable. Ijs
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| NAACP Image Award Nominations | January 19, 2012 @ 1:03pm | Well,the Image Award noms were announced,today,and I
must say,"I'm SHOCKED! Why? Because the two BEST
actors on daytime were NOT nominated! Debbi and
Darnell's names were NOT on the list of nominees!
What happened?! Did they not submit their names,
for consideration? IF so,then I can understand,not
being nominated.(That's the reason that Kristoff St. John
hasn't been nominated. He stopped submitting his name for
consideration,so that Bryton James could have a better
chance of winning. )So if D and D didn't submit their
names,fine. But why wouldn't they? They put in the
finest,most impressive performance in all of daytime
(imho. )for their work on the baby switch storyline.
So,why would they NOT submit their names for consideration?
I'm at a loss. I mean,c'mon,the guy who played "Ben"
(the guy who held Erica captive)received a nomination!
What's up with THAT?! I don't get it! Especially when
one considers the fact that Crystal Kahlil,also,received
a nomination. Seriously,NAACP?! Wow! Just Wow!
Mind you,I know that,recently,I criticized DM for her
role on Y&R(and without apology. My criticism stands.)
Still,I am able to give credit where it is due and DM
DOES deserve credit for her work on AMC,this past year.
She was PHENOMENAL when "Angie" found out about Ellie
dying. So,to say that I'm disappointed in the NAACP,
right now,would be an understatement. BAD move,NAACP!
Hopefully,the EMMYS will be kinder to BOTH Debbi and
Darnell,this year! |
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| Debbi 's twitter page | January 25, 2012 @ 9:53pm | All members go and click to follow and voice your opinion
about Harmony and D's new character. She isn't feeling Darnell on young and restless.
Thanks,
Alison |
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deltagirl98
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| Rolytab | January 29, 2012 @ 6:46pm |
Quote (Rolytab)
All members go and click to follow and voice your opinion
about Harmony and D's new character. She isn't feeling Darnell on young and restless.
Thanks,
Alison |
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Do follow Ms. Debbi and I think people are wanting a Harmony/Tucker pairing. I would rather not see her with Neil personally. He is the only AA male and just because he is does not mean he has to be paired with every AA woman that comes on the scene. I love black love for sure but in this circumstance he is MARRIED and it would be nice to have her character link up with another family. There is only so much recycling of that Winters s/l folk can take.
Debbi loves Darnell we all know! But I can see why she wants to get away from them being a pair. It's Y&R not AMC. She took the role to do something totally different from Angie. If they try to pair them up too quickly IMO that is diastrous because people will try to make them Angie and Jesse and we already see that Harmony isn't "Angie" so it would be awkward at this point to put them together romantically. I am hoping they write a character that has depth that the fans will enjoy with Darnell coming on. I am sure if he is left there long enough they will hook up eventually and I do not mind that because we know they work together.
But anything is better than woman meets Neil falls for him, sleep with his brother or vice versa, she ends up pregnant and then we have a whose the daddy s/l again. Enough with that and give them some love, business and drama like everyone else! lol
I still say put Harmony in Jack's orbit!
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| January 29, 2012 @ 10:12pm | DG98,
I,personally,don't want a Harmony/Tucker(or,for that
matter,Jack)hook up,as it will not end well for Debbi's
character. Why? Well,for starters,Y&R does a poor job with
IR couplings.(Lily and Cane,not withstanding. CK doesn't
"look black",and,imo.is deemed less threatening. That,I
believe is the reason that they were only too happy to
hire her back,after firing Davetta Sherwood. The REAL
Lily. ) As I was saying,Y&R does a poor job with IR
couplings;Neil and Victoria.(bust)Olivia and Brad.(bust)
Neil and Ashley(bust). Do you see a pattern,here? The
only thing Y&R can tolerate doing(where white people and
more noticeably,black people are concerned)is to have them
have sex and then break up. (Which only lends itself
to them entertaining the titillation factor and then mov-
ing on,to other characters. )
That being said,if Debbi is of the opinion that it
would be too predictable to have her character hook up
with Neil,well,maybe so,but what would be SO different
(Especially for Y&R)to have a black person and a white
person hook up,only to break up 5 minutes later?!
Nothing,if you ask me. If Debbi,actually,thinks that
tptb are going to treat her character,any differently than
KSJ's or any of the other AAs on that show,then she hasn't
been paying close attention to the show,ever since BB
died. And she,obviously,isn't hearing ANYTHING that
her friend VR has been saying about MAB and her regime,
at Y&R. If Debbi has been paying attention to what
Maria's been doing,over at Y&R,where the black people
are concerned,then it begs the question,why would she
sign on with them? (Other than wanting to work,as an
actress,that is.)
As for Neil and Harmony not hooking up,due to him being
married,well,last time I checked,so was TUCKER! So,
why would people want,so desperately,a Tucker/Harmony
hook up? Especially when Ashley is a nice woman,who
doesn't deserve to be dogged out for an ex-crackhead.
Granted,Harmony has a connection with Tucker,that Ashley,
most likely,will never have;a child(Devon). Still,a
hook up between Harmony and Tucker will not be about any-
thing other than sex,given their backstory and that Tuck-
er couldn't even remember Harmony's face,when they met
back up. And couldn't be bothered to get her REAL name,
when they were together. What is THAT?! Doesn't,exactly,
scream LOVE,to me,but,oh well,to each his own.
Suffice it to say,a Harmony/Tucker hook-up MAY happen,
(this IS a soap,after all. )but it won't last for an
extended period of time,as Y&R doesn't care to "go there"
with the exception of Lily and Cane.
And,just out of curiosity,if it is redundant to recon-
nect Debbi with Darnell,why isn't it,also,redundant to
do a Cliff/Angie redux? Especially,when it didn't
work the first time. (And don't say it's because
we're in a different time period. Putting race in a con-
text of time,is like putting the worth of people of color
on a time table. That isn't cool,ever,in my opinion. ) |
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