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| TGIF CHATTER 4/3 | April 3, 2009 @ 2:58am | HAPPY FRIDAY NATION!!!
Ok why is it they never put info of the Hubbards on the tv guides info??? I feel a conspiracy in the works...I'm just saying.
ANYWAY, Hopefully we will get Hubbards today again.
In the meantime enjoy your day!
WELCOME TO OUR NEWEST MEMBER HARIETESLASLA!!! |
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jlove19

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| Good moring everyone | April 3, 2009 @ 8:55am | i hope we get the hubbard again. welcome to the nation HARIETESLASLA.


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michele

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| April 3, 2009 @ 9:38am | Good Morning Nation, I hope you all will have a wonderful day and weekend .I will see you all later .
ITS THE WEEKEND BABYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY |
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dandd08

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| April 3, 2009 @ 10:23am | 
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HAPPY FRIDAY NATION!!!
Ok why is it they never put info of the Hubbards on the tv guides info??? I feel a conspiracy in the works...I'm just saying.
ANYWAY, Hopefully we will get Hubbards today again.
In the meantime enjoy your day!
WELCOME TO OUR NEWEST MEMBER HARIETESLASLA!!! |
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There's No Doubt about that.

 "You are my profound joy, my greatest gift" ~---~ "My whole life changed when I met you"

"You gave me my life back" ~---~ "Before we met I was lost" |
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dandd08

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| April 3, 2009 @ 10:28am | It was nice seeing another Tender, Loving Moment between AnJ and I was happy to hear Angie reassure Jesse that he's still That Man. tu)

 "You are my profound joy, my greatest gift" ~---~ "My whole life changed when I met you"

"You gave me my life back" ~---~ "Before we met I was lost" |
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Meredith

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| April 3, 2009 @ 12:24pm | 
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It was nice seeing another Tender, Loving Moment between AnJ and I was happy to hear Angie reassure Jesse that he's still That Man. tu) |
| I was just talking about this with another fan and while I enjoyed their 2 minutes alone yesterday, it irriates me that it seems Angie is the one that is always saying how she's falling more and more in love with Jesse... yet when was the last time we heard him say those words... I'm falling more and more in love with you... when clearly Angie has shown him plenty of reasons why he needs to be saying them to her and he's shown her not nearly as many reasons for her to be saying them to him.
Angie has told him this twice since his lies came to light and he has yet to tell her anything along those lines.
Just an observation.


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Divak

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| Have a great day Nation! | April 3, 2009 @ 12:48pm |

 " Our Jesse and Angie will forever be those two "Crazy kids in Love" their love is forever!
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dandd08

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| April 3, 2009 @ 2:35pm | 
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It was nice seeing another Tender, Loving Moment between AnJ and I was happy to hear Angie reassure Jesse that he's still That Man. tu) |
| I was just talking about this with another fan and while I enjoyed their 2 minutes alone yesterday, it irriates me that it seems Angie is the one that is always saying how she's falling more and more in love with Jesse... yet when was the last time we heard him say those words... I'm falling more and more in love with you... when clearly Angie has shown him plenty of reasons why he needs to be saying them to her and he's shown her not nearly as many reasons for her to be saying them to him.
Angie has told him this twice since his lies came to light and he has yet to tell her anything along those lines.
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Mere,
I get where you're coming from, but I just don't have a problem with it.
Jesse didn't say "more and more", but he clearly stated how much he loved Angie during the Benefit. He hasn't done anything that would question his love for her.
Angie was without the Love Of Her Life for 20 years and if she tells him she loves him a million times, I say more Power to her. She's happy she has her Miracle back.
BTW, with Jesse twice mentioning being away from his son, I still have hope that we'll get some emotional scenes from him expressing his hurt.

 "You are my profound joy, my greatest gift" ~---~ "My whole life changed when I met you"

"You gave me my life back" ~---~ "Before we met I was lost" |
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dandd08

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| April 3, 2009 @ 2:39pm | No Hubbards today.

 "You are my profound joy, my greatest gift" ~---~ "My whole life changed when I met you"

"You gave me my life back" ~---~ "Before we met I was lost" |
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Meredith

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| April 3, 2009 @ 2:55pm | 
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Mere,
I get where you're coming from, but I just don't have a problem with it.
Jesse didn't say "more and more", but he clearly stated how much he loved Angie during the Benefit. He hasn't done anything that would question his love for her. |
| Are you talking about the benefit where Natalia wanted him to dance with her mother? If so, I agree he expressed his love for Angie... I'm not saying Jesse has done anything, outside of his lies, to make me question his love for Angie... only that if anyone should be falling more and more in love, it should be him and if it's going to be said, given the past few months, again it should be Jesse saying it because not only did she instantly forgive him for his hideous actions, he did nothing to gain her trust back... he needs to be shouting for all of PV to hear that he loves Angie more and more with each passing day because she gave him grace for his sin that can only be topped by God's grace.

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Angie was without the Love Of Her Life for 20 years and if she tells him she loves him a million times, I say more Power to her. She's happy she has her Miracle back. |
| I'm not against Angie telling Jesse she loves him every single day. Jesse was acting selfess about lil A and JR and I can absolutely see why she loves him more (as opposed to her saying it when they were on their threesome date with his mistress).
Jesse was without the Love Of His Life for 20 years too and her being with him, especially after his gross lies, is as much his Miracle as him being hers... because of that, I am for Jesse telling her he loves her more and more... yeah I believe he loves her but I have to assume he loves her more and more since the lies were exposed because, unlike Angie, he hasn't expressed it.
We never got to see Jesse lay it out there, get on his knees and thank God that Angie not only forgave him but took in his lies and made their lives as comfortable as possible... Jesse should have been kissing Angie's feet for at least a month... one little kiss and thank you just wasn't enough for what Angie did for him... it's almost as if he isn't eternally grateful, or at least as grateful as he should be that Angie didn't kick him out.
ETA: Even in the mist of making her Christmas awkward (and being the reason her daughter didn't come to spend Christmas with Angie) Jesse STILL didn't express that he loved Angie more and more... he didn't even protest and tell her he loved her more than she loved him:
Jesse: Yeah. Baby, I know this is awkward for you.
Angie: I like Natalia. I do, and -- and she's really earned Frankie's seal of approval. As far as Rebecca goes, you and I are in the right place with that, ok? And all I want is to help make her life as easy and as comfortable as possible.
Jesse: You are as amazing as you are beautiful.
Angie: Well, uh, this is true.
[Jesse chuckles]
Angie: It's also the right thing to do.
Jesse: I love you.
Angie: I love you more.
there Angie goes again... loving him more in the mist of his lies walking around her house, decorating her Christmas tree and without him telling her he loves her more...


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Brittani

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| What!? What a Jip | April 3, 2009 @ 3:05pm | 
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No Hubbards today. |
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I was so looking forward to catching some clips of the Hub Fam today

 There is no such force in this world as a woman determined to succeed. - W.E.B DuBois |
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Brittani

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| Hey Nation | April 3, 2009 @ 3:07pm | Hey Nation hope you all had a great day today, and a wonderful weekend....TGIF
Chat Later Brittani

 There is no such force in this world as a woman determined to succeed. - W.E.B DuBois |
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dandd08

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| April 3, 2009 @ 3:45pm | 
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Mere,
I get where you're coming from, but I just don't have a problem with it.
Jesse didn't say "more and more", but he clearly stated how much he loved Angie during the Benefit. He hasn't done anything that would question his love for her. |
| Are you talking about the benefit where Natalia wanted him to dance with her mother? If so, I agree he expressed his love for Angie... I'm not saying Jesse has done anything, outside of his lies, to make me question is love for Angie... only that if anyone should be falling more and more in love, it should be him and if it's going to be said, given the past few months, again it should be Jesse saying it because not only did she instantly forgive him for his hideous actions, he did nothing to gain her trust back... he needs to be shouting for all of PV to hear that he loves Angie more and more with each passing day because she gave him grace for his sin that can only be riviled by God's grace.

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Angie was without the Love Of Her Life for 20 years and if she tells him she loves him a million times, I say more Power to her. She's happy she has her Miracle back. |
| I'm not against Angie saying she loves him and yesterday I could see why she would say it (as opposed to her saying it when they were on their triple date with his mistress)... Jesse was without the Love Of His Life for 20 years too and her being with him, especially after his gross lies, is as much his Miracle as him being hers... because of that, I am for Jesse telling her he loves her more and more... yeah I believe he loves her but I have to assume he loves her more and more since the lies were exposed because, unlike Angie, he hasn't expressed it.
We never got to see Jesse lay it out there, get on his knees and thank God that Angie not only forgave him put took in his lies and make their lives as comfortable as possible... Jesse should have been kissing Angie's feet for at least a month... |
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Mere,
Are you talking about the benefit where Natalia wanted him to dance with her mother? Yes, that's the Benefit I was referring too.
if anyone should be falling more and more in love, it should be him I can't say I disagree, but she forgave him and he shouldn't be made to feel as though he has to constantly apologize. At some point you have to let it go and move on.
We never got to see Jesse lay it out there, get on his knees and thank God that Angie not only forgave him put took in his lies and make their lives as comfortable as possible Yes, I wanted to see more emotion expressed, but it didn't happen before that s/l was shut down. Clean up is happening now with the character and I get the feeling we may get our wish. I believe he has told her twice in the last week or so he Needs her.

 "You are my profound joy, my greatest gift" ~---~ "My whole life changed when I met you"

"You gave me my life back" ~---~ "Before we met I was lost" |
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Meredith

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| April 3, 2009 @ 3:56pm | 
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I can't say I disagree, but she forgave him and he shouldn't be made to feel as though he has to constantly apologize. At some point you have to let it go and move on. |
| I'm not suggesting that Jesse should be made to feel as though he should constantly apologize... I'm saying he should, of his own accord, make the effort to make things up to her, tell her he loves her more and more because we have not seen any extra effort on his part and in fact saw no effort at all to repair what he broke... out of love and gratefulness he should do it... not unlike us... we are motivated by our love for God because of His great love for us and his great forgiveness to us... we are motivated by love not guilt, that flows up and down to do good works...
Jesse should be motivated by his love for Angie, not his guilt for what he did against her, to do good works, say he loves Angie more and more.


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dandd08

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| April 3, 2009 @ 4:12pm | 
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I can't say I disagree, but she forgave him and he shouldn't be made to feel as though he has to constantly apologize. At some point you have to let it go and move on. |
| I'm not suggesting that Jesse should be made to feel as though he should constantly apologize... I'm saying he should, of his own accord, make the effort to make things up to her, tell her he loves her more and more... out of gratefulness he should do it... not unlike us... we are motivated by our love for God because of His great ove for us and his great forgiveness of our sins... we are motivated by love, not guilt, to do good works...
Jesse should be motivated by love, not guilt, to do good works, say he loves Angie more and more. |
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Mere,
Jesse has done that. He has constantly talked about wanting time alone with her and made the effort, though often interrupted.
I just don't see Angie as the type of person that needs to constantly hear that from Jesse. She Knows that Man loves her.

 "You are my profound joy, my greatest gift" ~---~ "My whole life changed when I met you"

"You gave me my life back" ~---~ "Before we met I was lost" |
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Meredith

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| April 3, 2009 @ 4:21pm | 
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Mere,
Jesse has done that. He has constantly talked about wanting time alone with her and made the effort, though often interrupted |
| I guess I don't see him wanting some alone time or a date night as making things up to her for his destruction of the basic foundation of their marriage. Wanting time alone is his reasonable service... but if I must... I may be able to force feed that down.

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I just don't see Angie as the type of person that needs to constantly hear that from Jesse. She Knows that Man loves her. |
| I'm not saying she has to constantly hear it from Jesse but let her hear it just once... Angie isn't constantly telling him she loves him more and more either but she's said it twice now since his lies and as she told him yesterday, she loves him more and more because he was acting so selfless. Jesse should have told her the same thing when she was being extremely selfless for the benefit of HIS daughter and HIS mistress and HIM... that's ALL I'm saying...
Why hasn't he expressed that he loves Angie even more when she showed him 10,000 reasons a few months ago?


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dandd08

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| April 3, 2009 @ 4:56pm | 
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Mere,
Jesse has done that. He has constantly talked about wanting time alone with her and made the effort, though often interrupted |
| I guess I don't see him wanting some alone time or a date night as making things up to her for his destruction of the basic foundation of their marriage. Wanting time alone is his reasonable service... but if I must... I may be able to force feed that down.

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I just don't see Angie as the type of person that needs to constantly hear that from Jesse. She Knows that Man loves her. |
| I'm not saying she has to constantly hear it from Jesse but let her hear it just once... Angie isn't constantly telling him she loves him more and more either but she's said it twice now since his lies and as she told him yesterday, she loves him more and more because he was acting so selfless. Jesse should have told her the same thing when she was being extremely selfless for the benefit of HIS daughter and HIS mistress and HIM... that's ALL I'm saying...
Why hasn't he expressed that he loves Angie even more when she showed him 10,000 reasons a few months ago?
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Mere,
Given what was shown, I feel he has done enough. Think about for example his reaction and what he said to Angie after he found out she invited R&N to move in.
I guess I'm not getting what more you want from him.
I also believe we're hearing Angie express that to Jesse as part of Pratt's attempt to Repair the Damage he did to the character.

 "You are my profound joy, my greatest gift" ~---~ "My whole life changed when I met you"

"You gave me my life back" ~---~ "Before we met I was lost" |
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jlove19

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| April 3, 2009 @ 5:23pm | 
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No Hubbards today. |
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oh man i wanted to see some Hubbard.


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| April 3, 2009 @ 5:23pm | 
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Mere,
Jesse has done that. He has constantly talked about wanting time alone with her and made the effort, though often interrupted |
| I guess I don't see him wanting some alone time or a date night as making things up to her for his destruction of the basic foundation of their marriage. Wanting time alone is his reasonable service... but if I must... I may be able to force feed that down.

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I just don't see Angie as the type of person that needs to constantly hear that from Jesse. She Knows that Man loves her. |
| I'm not saying she has to constantly hear it from Jesse but let her hear it just once... Angie isn't constantly telling him she loves him more and more either but she's said it twice now since his lies and as she told him yesterday, she loves him more and more because he was acting so selfless. Jesse should have told her the same thing when she was being extremely selfless for the benefit of HIS daughter and HIS mistress and HIM... that's ALL I'm saying...
Why hasn't he expressed that he loves Angie even more when she showed him 10,000 reasons a few months ago?
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Mere,
Given what was shown, I feel he has done enough. Think about for example his reaction and what he said to Angie after he found out she invited R&N to move in.
I guess I'm not getting what more you want from him.
I also believe we're hearing Angie express that to Jesse as part of Pratt's attempt to Repair the Damage he did to the character. |
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Well, I don't know about the rest of you, but I would still like to hear"
I'm so sorry for lying to you about who Natalia really was. I should have told you up front who she was. Please forgive me for lying to you and causing that short discord in our marriage vows?! I'd like to hear that but since Im not gonna, hey, why dwell on it!?
I do know one thing, they were absolutely gorgeous yesterday!!!

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| April 3, 2009 @ 5:31pm | ITA Meredith, This is why I am no longer feeling either Jesse or Angie. I'm not trying to play into Pratt's dirty little hands, but I can't help the fact that,because of Pratt's writing,which is both sexist and racist,IMO,Jesse as well as the o- ther men on the show,have been turned into cavemen or Archie Bunker wannabes. And it's truly disgusting. Even though Angie isn't being written as MINDLESS as Krystal,she's still acting like a woman who's OVERLY enamored of her hus- band,to the point of acting as if his mere presence in her life is some great gift and he doesn't have to do anything except EXIST,for her to be happy. No work on his part,to make the marriage work and happy is necessary. He just has to be his normal,wonderful self. Which is truly DISGUSTING and SEXIST because it puts the responsibility of making the marriage work,solely on the woman's shoulders,in this case Angie's and Jesse is free of any responsibility whatsoever. Last time I checked,marr- iage was a partnership. But not in Pratt's twisted,evil world. This is why I'm not feeling A/J anymore. They are insulting and disheartening . Angie should've kicked
Jesse to the curb and made him work his way back into her heart. He never did and I haven't been a fan since. I know it's Pratt's doing,but,hey,it's how I feel. |
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